Blogging Dewey: Dewey and Religion

A couple of bloggers mention Dewey in the context of the role of religion in today’s world. Thoughts from Kansas discusses a Washington Post article where physics is called a “secular ideology” along with capitalism and communism. Josh Rosenau brings up Barack Obama’s recent speech on religion (which I really need to discuss in its own right as soon as I get the energy to do so) and says:

Persuade people about a common reality, eh? What field of human endeavor seeks to understand our common reality? Ask John Dewey about that, and he’d have known that we’re talking about scientific pragmatism. Communism and capitalism adhere to unverifiable personal (unshared) assumptions about the nature of people, history, and morality. As such, they are unable to reach any synthesis but death or peaceful coexistence. Science, because it is the study of our shared reality is capable of synthesis. I can convince you that physics works because I can show it to you. We share that experience, and so long as we both value a commitment to reality, physics is the same for everyone.

I think this is a pretty good capsule of Dewey’s approach to empiricism. I do think that Dewey, at least, would be inclined to bring both communism and capitalism under empiricism’s scrutiny as well. Those “assumptions about the nature of people, history and morality” lead people to make predictions about how the future will unfold. We should be able to see whether or not these predictions pan out. Indeed, I’d argue that one of the reasons so many people either reject or want to modify capitalism and communism is that the predictions haven’t come to pass.

Todd at Todd’s Hammer – a really good blog that I’m going to add to the links sections here as soon as I hit post – briefly mentions Dewey in the context of the religion-vs.-science conflict. I’d like to quote a fair chunk of his opening paragraph along with the Dewey mention that comes later on:

Religion is a “meaning-maker� that for thousands of years has been mis-apprehended as a “truth-spring�, a source of empirical truth. The problem with religion and science over the past 500 years is that our human understanding of knowledgecraft, that is, how we know, has progressed to what we commonly call the “scientific method,� leaving religious truth-claims in the dust. Truth-seeking guided by the assumptions of scientific method produces a radically different kind of knowledge than that produced by religion (or philosophy or music or art or literature), one anchored in embodied experience, observation, deductive reasoning and generalizing inference from experimental data. Religion produces meaning through tradition, story, theorizing from foreknown assumptions, and affective experience or feelings. The conflict arises when religion is mistaken as the truth-spring, the source of our knowledge of the natural world, rather than a meaning-maker.
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John Dewey’s particular version of Naturalism sees human meaning production, that is, the humanities, as a biological function. Our brains are set up to produce meaning. And George Herbert Mead argued that, psychologically, despite our formal knowledge systems in modern societies, at its root, meaning arises in interaction with the world. That is, our brains produce meaning through interaction and experience. We know what something means but, crassly put, using it. Thus, meaning production is embodied and social, by nature.

This probably cuts right to the core of why Dewey and pragmatists are so fiercely criticized by strong supporters of religion. When pragmatists says that meaning comes from use, on the one hand there’s a very basic and “practical” way to take it. If I say “The sun is bright outside,” I can describe a lot of different phenomena that I might be trying to point out in terms of light and color. But in order for me to understand what the sun being outside means, the sentence has to call to mind different ways that the sun being bright shapes the world around me. I need sunglasses, I should think about sunblock, and so on and so forth. We know more about what it means for the sun to be bright now than we did years ago when we didn’t understand UV radiation so well. Well, you can take this concept and scale it up to the big ideas, which is what Dewey is famous for doing with things like democracy and education. We grasp the meaning of democracy to the extent that we take actions that increase human potential to understand and act and unlocks that potential in everyone. This is a big idea, on the scale of many religious ideas, and Dewey tries to explain how meaningful it is to him in his book A Common Faith. But it is based entirely on the natural world that we experience, and so it isn’t a satisfactory source of meaning for many people.

3 Comments

  1. Ping from bkyu:

    Thanks for taking a look at my blog and engaging those ideas here. I’m deeply interested in Dewey’s naturalism and his view of cognition and meaning-production. I’m currently re-reading Experience and Nature and am basically coming out of my skin. Although the science of cognition has advanced a great deal since the 1920s, I’m amazed at how Dewey’s philosophy (not to metion GH Mead’s) corresponds to the current state of cognitive and evolutionary science.

    I think that the key aspect of religion missing from Dewey’s estimation is the experiential facet of “awe”, or what cognitive sciences think of as the ‘religious experience.’ It is a kind of consumatory experience (a finality, or end-in-itself) that when undergone seems to exceede the consumation of all other meanings. The difficulty is to get the religious to step outside of their experience of “awe” or “spirit” to see how and why their brains are functioning in that way. I agree with Colin McGinn that the world is as much (if not more so) wondrous after God as with God; and I also think that making the leap from the dogmatic and ‘mysterious’ meanings of old-style religion to new more rational types of religion that take into account both the obdurate world and our intensely pluralistic social world as we live it *now* to be of utmost importance.

  2. Ping from Todd's Hammer:

    Putting Religion in Its Place

    Religion should be seen as one of the humanities, akin to an art. Religion is a “meaning-maker” that for thousands of years has been mis-apprehended as a “truth-spring”, a source of empirical truth. The problem with religion a…

  3. Ping from Dave Thomer:

    Todd, thanks for the response.

    I know what you’re saying about Dewey and awe. I get the sense that Dewey himself had that sense of awe when he looked at the network of complex relationships and possibilities that make up the world of experience, but not everyone is going to feel that way – not even every pragmatist, which is probably where William James comes into the picture. Finding some way to thread James’ needle – to hold a belief in some kind of supernatural world while not conradicting any belief in the natural world – is a difficult feat in itself.

    What Dewey’s notion doesn’t have, though, is a sense of teleology, a notion that things are happening for a reason and that there’s a higher purpose that it all fits into. (Obama called it the need for a narrative structure in that speech he gave last week.) The indeterminancy of nature is central to Dewey, and I imagine that’s why many people don’t find the comfort in Dewey’s vision that I do. I don’t know how to get an adult with an established world view to give up the security that comes with his or her world view, even though I see the value of trying. But I have a hunch that this is one of the reasons Dewey was so concerned with education.