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Even Rock Stars Get the Tech Blues

Posted November 12, 2005 By Dave Thomer

So I have Glen Phillips’ official site bookmarked, because I like to keep up with the former Toad the Wet Sprocket singer. (Yes, I was a big fan of Toad, and I’ve seen two of Glen’s live acoustic shows. More of that living in the 90s I was talking about before, perhaps.) But there haven’t been a lot of updates, so I haven’t checked it very frequently. Well, tonight I went there and discovered that Glen has a myspace site with sound clips and a more-frequently updated blog. The official site is much snazzier to look at, but according to Glen, the myspace site is easier for him to post stuff to. There’s something about that I find kinda endearing.

By all means, go check out either of the sites, and Glen’s album Winter Pays for Summer. It’s good stuff.

Who Says We Overthink Things?

Posted November 10, 2005 By Dave Thomer

Two interesting posts tonight up at The Ethical Werewolf, Neil Sinhababu’s blog.

Up top is a brief post about the difference between good and evil:

what makes a person morally good is her intrinsic desire for the good of others. One can be a morally good person (or for that matter, a morally good dog) with any set of beliefs whatsoever. Evil people are particularly susceptible to some beliefs — if you have some deep-seated desire to harm black people, this desire can get some wishful thinking going when combined with a desire to only harm people who do bad things, generating a belief that black people do lots of bad things. This is the belief with which your desires are maximally satisfied. What really makes you evil in this case is the desire to harm black people, not the resultant belief.

I wonder a bit about this definition. It seems to me like you can be evil without actually wishing harm on people if you don’t care at all about how your actions affect them. And people can rationalize themselves into all manner of definitions of good that justify really destructive behavior. Plus there’s the issue of the responsibility that we have to make sure that our belief about what’s good for others actually is good for others. Although under Neil’s definition that might be part of truly wishing what’s good for others in the first place.

But there does seem to be something to the notion that someone who does a horrible thing out of noble intentions is more sympathetic and less horrible than otherwise. Maybe that’s people have a hard time ascribing noble intentions to their ideological opponents.

Right under that post, Neil rather brilliantly marries philosophy of language with the mysteries of dating:

Sadly, it’s not easy to conditionally hit on somebody. Here’s a straightforward example: “If you’re interested in me, then I think you’re really cute.” This, however, amounts to actual hitting on, whether or not the antecedent is satisfied. . . .
There’s one clear problem with conditional hitting-on. It evinces the same attitudes of sexual interest that are essential to actual hitting-on. So when you try to construct a case of conditional hitting-on, it immediately becomes a case of actual hitting-on.

For better or worse, this is definitely the kind of problem only a philosopher can have.

Credit Where It’s Due

Posted November 10, 2005 By Dave Thomer

The latest hit on my recurring Dewey search is this piece by Jonah Goldberg at the National Review Online. Despite his obvious disagreements with pragmatism, Goldberg generally does a good job of portraying the position and the critical areas of disagreement. (In another column he jokes that he is assistant treasurer of “the small club of He-Man Pragmatism-haters.”)

I do think the central point of his essay is wrong, but then I would, since I’m a pragmatist. Goldberg writes:

Am I crazy for seeing a conflict between these two views? Menand values the “realism” of Pragmatism which strips away metaphysical irrelevancies while he criticizes Kahn for failing to take into account the rich variety of moral, political, and cultural factors which prevent us from being able to predict how people will react in a calamity like nuclear war.

The problem, I think is that Goldberg is conflating “metaphysical irrelvancies” with “the rich variety of moral, political and cultural factors” in a way that he shouldn’t. A pragmatist who is realistic about the world is going to have observed the variety of beliefs people have and the ways that those beliefs motivate people’s actions. The pragmatist is then going to take those beliefs into account in any plan or prediction he or she wants to make about human behavior.

However, a pragmatist also argues that those moral, political and cultural factors can and do change, because the world is not eternally stable. And this, I think, is the part that Goldberg has a problem with, so I’m going to sidetrack myself for a second. I believe that Goldberg wants moral standards to be permanent, or at least very slow to change. He wants us to make decisions based on the things that we know are simply right, and we sure can’t do that very easily if what’s right is murky or keeps changing. And he has a point there. Pragmatists point out, though, that 1) there’s no reason to believe these absolute certainties exist, because the world sure does seem to change; 2) we’re not sure how we would know we had found them if we did find them; and 3) there seem to be a whole lot of people who are convinced that they have found them, but the certainties in question are mutually contradictory and sometimes run up against what our empirical investigation tells us about the world. (Galileo and Copernicus being two of the favorite examples trotted out on this score.)

So pragmatists are OK with the idea that our beliefs and practices have to change and evolve over time. They want to encourage people to critically examine their own beliefs and practices and see which ones have good reason for being there and which ones might actually work against us. They can say that we need to take certain beliefs and attitudes into account in our current planning even while they try to convince people not to have those beliefs and attitudes anymore. They acknowledge that there will be unintended and unforeseen consequences of this process, which is why the process is continual – a good solution to a problem in 1950 may have to be revised in 1970 and again in 1990, and a pragmatist is OK with that. At a fundamental level, I don’t think Goldberg is – he just doesn’t see the world that way. But it’s a fair debate to have.

On the other hand, Goldberg also tosses this in:

Under the influence of Dewey, the Pragmatists championed “experimentalism” which sought to treat every human endeavor like a laboratory experiment. Dewey transformed American education entirely and we live with the results today.

The first sentence is, I think, a too-harsh exaggeration. Dewey wanted us to make use of the method of science, but not treat each other as lab rats. As for the second sentence: I really wish I had gone to school in the world where everyone was following the Deweyan model of having students play an active role in the learning process. I spent twelve years sitting in desks listening to teachers lecture while my fellow students asked, “Will this be on the test?” and “What am I ever going to do with this?” I think I would have had more fun in that other world.

Update:
Roy at alicublog is considerably less charitable to Goldberg than I am. I’m willing to cut Goldberg some slack on the conflation I mentioned above because I’ve seen that mistake made so many times. There must be something about believing in absolute metaphysical certainties that makes people unable to understand the people who don’t.

Party Like It’s 1995

Posted November 10, 2005 By Dave Thomer

So I turned 30 last week. And around the same time, I’ve started seeing ads and trailers for the movie version of Rent. Now, I was in college in New York City in the summer of ’96, when the show premiered on Broadway. And back then, the show had a policy of reserving the front two rows of the theater for sale the day of the performance for 20 bucks. So if you were willing to wait in the line, you could see the show for cheap. Well, that summer and fall, you could not get away from Rent. One of my roommates was head of the campus theater group, and I think he saw it around half a dozen times (possibly more). He even dragged me to see it once, the only time I’ve seen a Broadway show. Many of my colleagues on the school paper had the cast album, and blared it on production nights. Well, now most of the original cast is back for the movie version, and it is just so freakin’ weird to see this attempt to recapture a particular moment of cultural history. (I don’t know if the story of the movie has been updated to take place now or if it’s still set in the 90s.)

And the more I’ve thought about that, the more I realize that there is a part of my pop culture brain that is permanently stuck about ten years in the past. I was grocery shopping the other day and found myself singing along to a Gin Blossoms song from 1993. Heck, even when I listen to alternative radio these days, it’s WXPN, the adult alternative station. I use an episode of Babylon 5 called “Passing Through Gethsemane” in some of my classes at Temple to talk about the thorny issues of personal identity. And it hit me the other day that the episode is about ten years old, so that there’s a very high likelihood that today’s 18- and 19-year olds will find it dated. But these things don’t feel old to me. My memories of encountering them for the first time are still vivid enough that they feel fresh It’s interesting that, much as I try and keep up with how technology and other things are changing the world we live in, there’s still some part of my self-understanding that includes the not-really-recent-anymore past as part of its image of the present..

An Excellent Election Day Question

Posted November 8, 2005 By Dave Thomer

Why Tuesday?

Pattie and I have allowed the city to use our garage as the polling place for our division since last November. It helps make sure our neighbors have a convenient place to vote, so I’m happy to do it – I figure it’s part of our contribution to Get Out the Vote efforts.

Of course, I wasn’t so crazy about it this morning when I had to get up at 6:30 to finish clearing out the garage, let the voting guys in, and get Alex ready for school so Pattie could go to work and I could go teach. The logistical problems involved in having a single day of voting right smack dab in the middle of the work week really hit home today. So there I was, asking Why Tuesday? I’m a little embarrassed to say I thought it was a Constitutional issue setting the date for federal elections, but as it turns out I learned from the site above that it’s because of an 1845 act of Congress. Tuesday was apparently a good day for rural folks who had to travel to vote. Which may have been all well and good 150 years ago, but doesn’t work so well today. This is one of those situations where re-evaluating what we do to see if it makes sense would come in handy.

There are occasional rumblings about making Election Day a national holiday, which would certainly be a good start. Of course, at this point, I want the day after the election to be a holiday . . .

John Dewey, Boogeyman

Posted November 7, 2005 By Dave Thomer

I have a customized layout over at Google News. It’s a great feature. I give Google a set of search terms, it generates a continually updating page of results from its database of news and commentary sources across the web.

Among the terms I track with this feature is “John Dewey.” And what I have discovered is that there is some serious hatred for Dewey in the world of conservative commentary. Or at least, hatred for some mythical version of Dewey who is somehow responsible for so much that has gone wrong with America in the last century. From time to time I’ll call attention to examples of this phenomenon.

And today I found a rather good example, the ironically-titled “Liberals Need Remedial Reading Classes “. The author, Tom Brewton, claims that the only legitimate source of morality is from some kind of metaphysically transcendent source – that standards for morality must come from someplace higher than human beings, and that these standards must be absolute. He criticizes atheistic believers in social justice by saying:

In an atheistic, secular world, the only factors are material forces, and by definition, therefore, metaphysically-based morality simply cannot exist. Thus, if the leader decrees that creating the New Soviet Man requires slaughtering a few million land-owning farmers, so be it. There are no rules of secular “morality� to stop it.

John Dewey’s atheistic and secular philosophy of pragmatism made this explicit. Dewey lectured at Columbia University in the early part of the 20th century that there can be no such things as moral standards, because Darwin had “proved� that everything is continually evolving. Thus, the only standards of conduct must be whatever gets for you what you want.

Now here’s the thing: Dewey definitely disputes Brewton’s claim that moral standards have to be absolute, or that they have to come from a transcendental source. Brewton could probably find and provide half a dozen quotes suggesting this before he finished breakfast. So if that’s going to be the field of dispute, fair enough. But Brewton goes overboard in mischaracterizing the positions of pragmatists such as Dewey.

In works like Liberalism and Social Action, Dewey explicitly criticized Marxist philosophy for focusing on economics and the material world. In Art as Experience he discussed the nature of emotionally and aesthetically satisfying experiences.

As for “whatever gets for you what you want” as the only moral standard, I wish I knew where Brewton were getting this. In The Quest for Certainty and the 1932 edition of Ethics (which Dewey co-wrote), Dewey talks about the difference between what is desired and what is desirable. The best analogy here is to the difference between what is eaten and what is edible. I am capable of going upstairs and swallowing a healthy dose or six of shampoo. That doesn’t mean that it’s a good thing for me to consume, or that consuming it is in any way beneficial to my continued existence. It may have been eaten, but it’s not edible.

Dewey argues that values work the same way. There are things we want, but getting them isn’t good for us. The trick is to figure out what these things are. Dewey argues that we can make a lot of progress on that front via reason, the same way we can figure out whether or not I should swallow that shampoo. And Dewey, who frequently criticized Stalin, would be one of the first to say that ” slaughtering a few million land-owning farmers” is pretty high up on the not-desirable list.

Now, like I said, saying that we can rationally investigate the world to determine moral standards is very different than saying that moral standards are permanent and eternal and have been revealed to us by religious figures and our social traditions. You might read books like Democracy and Education and The Public and Its Problems and not agree on the standards Dewey believes he has worked out. But that’s a very different argument than saying he has no standards at all.

Oh, and Brewton also tosses in this chestnut:

That’s akin to John Dewey’s progressive education via Rousseau, the belief that children will learn by themselves, via “experiences,� all that they need to know. Anyone for letting every student intuit calculus on his own, from “experiences�?

This is a withering critique of a position Dewey never took. In fact, in Experience and Education he explicitly argued against it right from the first page, where he criticized progressive educators of his day for getting trapped in Either-Or thinking. If too much structure, lecture, and top-down learning from teachers was the problem, then the solution must be an absence of structure, right? Wrong, says Dewey. You need both. In School and Society he talks about how students at the Laboratory School he ran in Chicago would indeed have their own projects, like trying to grow a vegetable garden. But then teachers would instruct them on the historical development of agricultural tools, on the principles of biology and chemistry that lead to better farming, and so on. Teaching in the Dewey method is actually a very demanding task, because the job of the teacher is to help provide the structure and context that lets the child see how education actually connects with one’s life outside the school and then provide the child with useful knowledge and skills.

I have a feeling we’ll be coming back to that issue quite a bit. Somewhere along the way Dewey’s theory of education got tossed in the intellectual blender and the mess is everywhere.

Crisis on Infinite Editions

Posted November 6, 2005 By Dave Thomer

I’ve had some fun joking about the confusion caused by comic continuity and universes before. And yet here I am, totally getting sucked in to a couple of DC’s ploys to play on both.

  • I bought the oversized edition of Kurt Busiek and George Perez’s JLA/Avengers crossover, which is basically an excuse to have Perez draw the heroes and settings of both DC and Marvel’s history and cram as much detail in as possible. And a lot of fights.
  • I have ordered the new oversized edition of Marv Wolfman and Perez’s Crisis on Infinite Earths, despite already owning the original issues. This is essentially so I can have a really big version of Perez drawing the heroes and settings of the DC multiverse circa 1985. And a lot of fights.
  • And this week I will be heading to the comic store to pick up the second issue of Infinite Crisis, a sequel to CoIE that has Phil Jimenez drawing the heroes and settings of the heroes and settings of the DC universe circa 2005. And a lot of fights. Oh, and there are a few pages by Perez in there, too. Just for the heck of it.

Infinite Crisis is part of some kind of years-long revamping/streamlining process DC’s been going through. I admit I have not been a huge fan of the lead-up to this story. But I am a sucker for Jimenez drawing the crap out of the DC universe, so I’m on board for this part of the ride.

Revenge of the Sith Review-o-Rama

Posted November 6, 2005 By Dave Thomer

With Revenge of the Sith out on DVD, I have been a very happy Star Wars geek the last week or so. Here’s a roundup of Episode III-related reviews I’ve written over at theLogBook:

Back in the summer I also did a week-long viewing of all six movies in numerical order, using my old VHS copies of the original trilogy. I wrote down some notes that at one point I was going to put up on the forums, but I figure this is as good a place as any.

My sense is that if I try to view the whole thing as one six-part story of Anakin’s rise, fall, and redemption, it doesn’t quite work for me. If I look at it as a two-part generational story that focuses first on Obi-Wan and Anakin and then on Luke, Han and Leia, I think it actually works rather well. For the most part, the prequels lend interesting subtext to existing reactions and interactions that didn’t really stand out before.

  • Rewatching Phantom Menace, I can see why Lucas went the route he did with kid Anakin. The contrast between the Jedi’s detachment from society and Shmi’s love for her son helps set up almost all of the mistakes the Jedi make with Anakin. And the three things that lead to Anakin’s downfall – confidence in his own ability, desire to help/save other people, and fear of losing loved ones – are all established.
  • None of that makes the podrace or Padme’s “No I’m the Queen!” scene any more fun to watch. And the Trade Federation voices are painful to hear.
  • The DVD cut of Attack of the Clones has Anakin’s breakdown after killing the Tuskens go on a little bit longer, so that after he sits down at the end, he expresses remorse and Padme comforts him. I think that’s a helpful revision. I have to think that Lucas is at least suggesting that the Tuskens are not quite human, so it’s not such a big deal that Anakin killed a bunch of ’em. But I’m not sure how well that works.
  • I think most of Star Wars is actually improved by the backstory. Owen knowing about protocol droids makes sense, but the different coverings and 3PO’s memory of his first job explain why he doesn’t immediately recognize him. When Obi-Wan says “Hello, there” to Artoo, it’s easy to read recognition into that if you want to. And R2 being so hell-bent on finding Obi-Wan makes sense now that we know that he’s one of the few who know what’s really going on. Any inconsistencies in what Ben says can be chalked up to him lying to protect Luke.
  • The one thing that doesn’t work so well is the Ben-Vader duel. Part of that is just from Lucas wanting a two-handed, broadsword approach in the original films, and a more acrobatic martial arts style in the prequels. But if this were really still Anakin and Obi-Wan’s story, I’d want to see a lot more emotional intensity, and maybe this would be more of a climactic moment instead of the transition to the third act. I just don’t feel like this is a rematch between the two guys that fought on Mustafar. That may actually do a lot to reveal how Vader has changed over the 20 years, with a lot of his emotion dying out. But it’s still kinda jarring. (Some folks at theLogBook have disagreed with me since I first wrote this, arguing that the sense of detachment actually works to show how much Ben has convinced himself that the guy in the suit is “more machine now than man.” So I’m trying to get over my objection here.)
  • R2 and Yoda bickering in Empire is also more fun to watch now.
  • Chewie interacting with the Jedi kinda helps explain why he’s got so much faith in Luke’s rescue plan in Return of the Jedi. (It might also explain why he was receptive to Ben in Star Wars.) I wonder if Luke mentioned who he’d been training with. I also wonder how Luke got so much stronger with the Force without more training. Maybe Yoda taught him all the skills, and Luke was able to improve just through practice.
  • The prequels do a really nice job at setting up the Emperor. Actually seeing how he seduced Anakin, and then seeing the parallels and divergences in his efforts to get Luke to turn, makes those scenes work a lot better than I remember them working before. It does kinda make me wonder where he disappeared to in 4 and 5 – another strike against viewing the movies as one six-parter.
  • I do like the symmetry in Anakin’s life. He goes to the dark side in large part to save his wife, he turns back to save his son. I also like the way he uses Luke’s fear of losing his friends and his sister in Jedi – it’s almost like he’s thinking, “This is what got me to turn, it ought to work on my son.” And it almost does.
  • The ground battle in Jedi still kinda falls flat. I guess subsequent generations of clones and conscripts weren’t quite as well trained.

Read Not News with a Nice Hot Beverage

Posted November 5, 2005 By Dave Thomer

If you have access to a source of quality Dutch-processed cocoa powder, I recommend Alton Brown’s recipe for homemade cocoa mix. I tried it last year with a so-so brand of cocoa powder, and was less than thrilled. But this year we found a new variety at Whole Foods, and it’s some good stuff.

A New Branch of Government?

Posted November 5, 2005 By Dave Thomer

I’ve been doing a lot of reading in the area of democratic theory lately, which will provide fodder for a slew of more academic posts shortly. The area I’m focusing on is called deliberative democratic theory, which is basically concerned with getting citizens involved in the political process by getting them to justify their favored policies to one another. So Amazon has been spitting a bunch of titles at me lately, and this one caught my eye: Deliberative Democracy in America: A Proposal for a Popular Branch of Government by Ethan J. Lieb. Here’s the description:

Leib concentrates on designing an institutional scheme for embedding deliberation in the practice of American democratic government. At the heart of his scheme is a process for the adjudication of issues of public policy by assemblies of randomly selected citizens convened to debate and vote on the issues, resulting in the enactment of laws subject both to judicial review and to possible veto by the executive and legislative branches. The “popular” branch would fulfill a purpose similar to the ballot initiative and referendum but avoid the shortcomings associated with those forms of direct democracy. Leib takes special pains to show how this new branch would be integrated with the already existing governmental and political institutions of our society, including administrative agencies and political parties, and would thus complement rather than supplant them.

I haven’t read the book yet, so I’m not sure how it would work. I’ve expressed my doubts about government by proposition before, so I’m open to new ideas that execute the core idea more effectively. I’m definitely going to have to try to get a hold of this book.